Comments on: How To Exploit The PageRankBot Tool http://seo4fun.com/blog/2007/08/08/how-to-exploit-the-pagerankbot-tool.html Search Engines | Blogs | Marketting | PHP/MYSQL | CSS Mon, 21 May 2012 20:30:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: Halfdeck http://seo4fun.com/blog/2007/08/08/how-to-exploit-the-pagerankbot-tool.html#comment-25841 Halfdeck Thu, 08 May 2008 00:15:51 +0000 http://seo4fun.com/blog/2007/08/08/how-to-exploit-the-pagerankbot-tool.html#comment-25841 "Is there a way to export the results as PDF or XML / XLS?" Sorry Phillip, that's on the todo list. I'm thinking of doing an upgrade on the tool either this month or next month, so if you shoot me an email I'll email you back when the upgrade is released. “Is there a way to export the results as PDF or XML / XLS?”

Sorry Phillip, that’s on the todo list. I’m thinking of doing an upgrade on the tool either this month or next month, so if you shoot me an email I’ll email you back when the upgrade is released.

]]> By: Philip Wilkinson http://seo4fun.com/blog/2007/08/08/how-to-exploit-the-pagerankbot-tool.html#comment-25820 Philip Wilkinson Wed, 07 May 2008 14:35:47 +0000 http://seo4fun.com/blog/2007/08/08/how-to-exploit-the-pagerankbot-tool.html#comment-25820 Is there a way to export the results as PDF or XML / XLS? Is there a way to export the results as PDF or XML / XLS?

]]> By: Bali http://seo4fun.com/blog/2007/08/08/how-to-exploit-the-pagerankbot-tool.html#comment-22883 Bali Mon, 17 Mar 2008 09:24:49 +0000 http://seo4fun.com/blog/2007/08/08/how-to-exploit-the-pagerankbot-tool.html#comment-22883 Thanks for nice tools, and nice explanation here. I use it regularly to check my site. Thanks Dewa, Bali Thanks for nice tools, and nice explanation here. I use it regularly to check my site.

Thanks
Dewa, Bali

]]> By: Halfdeck http://seo4fun.com/blog/2007/08/08/how-to-exploit-the-pagerankbot-tool.html#comment-21542 Halfdeck Wed, 27 Feb 2008 11:58:38 +0000 http://seo4fun.com/blog/2007/08/08/how-to-exploit-the-pagerankbot-tool.html#comment-21542 Hey Woody, Thanks for the feedback. If you email me an example URL, I'll be happy to look it over. Hey Woody,

Thanks for the feedback. If you email me an example URL, I’ll be happy to look it over.

]]> By: Woody http://seo4fun.com/blog/2007/08/08/how-to-exploit-the-pagerankbot-tool.html#comment-21537 Woody Tue, 26 Feb 2008 20:56:12 +0000 http://seo4fun.com/blog/2007/08/08/how-to-exploit-the-pagerankbot-tool.html#comment-21537 Just a quick one - excellent tool and I look forward to using it to improve things slightly. One thing though is that with some things using php sessions (e.g. gallery2, oscommerce) the ?gcid paramater means the same url will be added repeatedly with different session id's because the bot presumably doesnt keep the same one - meaning for my 50k+ site I can't really use it - if you get a chance a future feature would be removing parameters from urls or similar :D Other than that - Count me in as a newly subscribed reader :D Just a quick one - excellent tool and I look forward to using it to improve things slightly.

One thing though is that with some things using php sessions (e.g. gallery2, oscommerce) the ?gcid paramater means the same url will be added repeatedly with different session id’s because the bot presumably doesnt keep the same one - meaning for my 50k+ site I can’t really use it - if you get a chance a future feature would be removing parameters from urls or similar :D

Other than that - Count me in as a newly subscribed reader :D

]]> By: Supplemental Index Dead? - Page 2 - WebProWorld http://seo4fun.com/blog/2007/08/08/how-to-exploit-the-pagerankbot-tool.html#comment-18330 Supplemental Index Dead? - Page 2 - WebProWorld Fri, 21 Dec 2007 20:18:15 +0000 http://seo4fun.com/blog/2007/08/08/how-to-exploit-the-pagerankbot-tool.html#comment-18330 [...] Originally Posted by crankydave Ahhh yes. I rember when you posted this before. Not sure why you believe this tool shows you "hidden PageRank" but it is a very good tool for being able to illustrate and help you better visualize your internal link structure. Dave A good idea would be to read more about it here: How To Exploit The PageRankBot Tool » Half’s SEO Notebook I mainly use the desktop version, and sometimes the web based version we installed on the Webnauts Net server. __________________ Search Engine Optimization Consulting Company | SEO Analysis Tool | SEO Articles & Tutorials [...] […] Originally Posted by crankydave Ahhh yes. I rember when you posted this before. Not sure why you believe this tool shows you "hidden PageRank" but it is a very good tool for being able to illustrate and help you better visualize your internal link structure. Dave A good idea would be to read more about it here: How To Exploit The PageRankBot Tool » Half’s SEO Notebook I mainly use the desktop version, and sometimes the web based version we installed on the Webnauts Net server. __________________ Search Engine Optimization Consulting Company | SEO Analysis Tool | SEO Articles & Tutorials […]

]]> By: Supplementals: Not What They Used To Be & Tips for Getting Out - WebProWorld http://seo4fun.com/blog/2007/08/08/how-to-exploit-the-pagerankbot-tool.html#comment-17160 Supplementals: Not What They Used To Be & Tips for Getting Out - WebProWorld Fri, 30 Nov 2007 16:00:42 +0000 http://seo4fun.com/blog/2007/08/08/how-to-exploit-the-pagerankbot-tool.html#comment-17160 [...] Originally Posted by wige Any ideas or suggestions how to test that the SI ratio calculation ONLY takes into account SI pages? 1. Supplemental Index Ratio Calculator 2. How To Exploit The PageRankBot Tool » Half’s SEO Notebook 3. Manual checking I was working on our site's supplementals today. Here is what the one tool found: Supplemental Index Ratio Calculator 1 page in an https page on www. 8 pages are the categories of our forums which are duplicated due to redirect mistake: To be specific, there two are indexed by Google: Code: [...] […] Originally Posted by wige Any ideas or suggestions how to test that the SI ratio calculation ONLY takes into account SI pages? 1. Supplemental Index Ratio Calculator 2. How To Exploit The PageRankBot Tool » Half’s SEO Notebook 3. Manual checking I was working on our site’s supplementals today. Here is what the one tool found: Supplemental Index Ratio Calculator 1 page in an https page on http://www. 8 pages are the categories of our forums which are duplicated due to redirect mistake: To be specific, there two are indexed by Google: Code: […]

]]> By: Kevin Wilson http://seo4fun.com/blog/2007/08/08/how-to-exploit-the-pagerankbot-tool.html#comment-16008 Kevin Wilson Sat, 08 Sep 2007 21:04:56 +0000 http://seo4fun.com/blog/2007/08/08/how-to-exploit-the-pagerankbot-tool.html#comment-16008 Duhhh! . Thanks. That will certainly make a difference, eh. Duhhh! .

Thanks. That will certainly make a difference, eh.

]]> By: Halfdeck http://seo4fun.com/blog/2007/08/08/how-to-exploit-the-pagerankbot-tool.html#comment-15995 Halfdeck Thu, 06 Sep 2007 13:47:06 +0000 http://seo4fun.com/blog/2007/08/08/how-to-exploit-the-pagerankbot-tool.html#comment-15995 Thanks Dan, I gave your article a nudge on Sphinn. I kinda like to see it on the "Greatest Hits" front page. Thanks Dan, I gave your article a nudge on Sphinn. I kinda like to see it on the “Greatest Hits” front page.

]]> By: Halfdeck http://seo4fun.com/blog/2007/08/08/how-to-exploit-the-pagerankbot-tool.html#comment-15989 Halfdeck Wed, 05 Sep 2007 17:56:24 +0000 http://seo4fun.com/blog/2007/08/08/how-to-exploit-the-pagerankbot-tool.html#comment-15989 Kevin, take a closer look at your source code: You need to swap rel-"nofollow" with rel="nfollow" Kevin, take a closer look at your source code:

You need to swap rel-”nofollow” with rel=”nfollow”

]]> By: Kevin Wilson http://seo4fun.com/blog/2007/08/08/how-to-exploit-the-pagerankbot-tool.html#comment-15988 Kevin Wilson Wed, 05 Sep 2007 17:46:24 +0000 http://seo4fun.com/blog/2007/08/08/how-to-exploit-the-pagerankbot-tool.html#comment-15988 Great tool! Thanks a lot for making this available. I am puzzled by what I'm seeing in the results for my site though. My contacts, warranty, shipping etc pages are coming up with the highest pagerank, which you would expect given that they are linked from the main navmenu on every other page - except that I have rel="nofollow" on those links. The only thing I can think of is that the navmenu is in an ssi include file - but if the ssi wasn't being processed, then the links wouldn't be visible at all. Any idea what I'm missing here? Great tool! Thanks a lot for making this available.

I am puzzled by what I’m seeing in the results for my site though. My contacts, warranty, shipping etc pages are coming up with the highest pagerank, which you would expect given that they are linked from the main navmenu on every other page - except that I have rel=”nofollow” on those links. The only thing I can think of is that the navmenu is in an ssi include file - but if the ssi wasn’t being processed, then the links wouldn’t be visible at all. Any idea what I’m missing here?

]]> By: Dan Thies http://seo4fun.com/blog/2007/08/08/how-to-exploit-the-pagerankbot-tool.html#comment-15980 Dan Thies Wed, 05 Sep 2007 00:02:35 +0000 http://seo4fun.com/blog/2007/08/08/how-to-exploit-the-pagerankbot-tool.html#comment-15980 Fair warning... Get ready for some downloads... I didn't Sphinn it or anything, but I will be mailing on it in the morning: http://www.seofaststart.com/blog/internal-nofollow-help Fair warning… Get ready for some downloads… I didn’t Sphinn it or anything, but I will be mailing on it in the morning:
http://www.seofaststart.com/blog/internal-nofollow-help

]]> By: How To Get More Pages Indexed With Nofollow http://seo4fun.com/blog/2007/08/08/how-to-exploit-the-pagerankbot-tool.html#comment-15977 How To Get More Pages Indexed With Nofollow Tue, 04 Sep 2007 23:48:02 +0000 http://seo4fun.com/blog/2007/08/08/how-to-exploit-the-pagerankbot-tool.html#comment-15977 [...] Fortunately, there is a tool out there that you can use… and it's free (ain't the web cool?). Halfdeck (of SEO4Fun) has recently released a free tool called the PageRankBot that will spider your site and map out the distribution of PageRank. He's labeled it badly as a supplemental results detector, because it's actually a lot cooler than that. There will be some work involved in installing it, and I am not on board for tech support. With that caveat, it can be all kinds of fun to play with once you get it running. [...] […] Fortunately, there is a tool out there that you can use… and it's free (ain't the web cool?). Halfdeck (of SEO4Fun) has recently released a free tool called the PageRankBot that will spider your site and map out the distribution of PageRank. He's labeled it badly as a supplemental results detector, because it's actually a lot cooler than that. There will be some work involved in installing it, and I am not on board for tech support. With that caveat, it can be all kinds of fun to play with once you get it running. […]

]]> By: Halfdeck http://seo4fun.com/blog/2007/08/08/how-to-exploit-the-pagerankbot-tool.html#comment-15976 Halfdeck Tue, 04 Sep 2007 20:10:28 +0000 http://seo4fun.com/blog/2007/08/08/how-to-exploit-the-pagerankbot-tool.html#comment-15976 Hey Tsim, The "raw PageRanks" you see represents an internal PageRank calculation that isn't a predictor of what you actually see in the toolbar. Actual PageRanks depend on PageRank entry points (which pages are your backlinks pointing at?) and the amount of PageRank flowing into your site from those entry points. There are other factors that effect the accuracy of the tool (e.g. PageRank discounted from certain links, some pages on your site that's excluded from PageRank calculation, etc). To simulate backlinks, like I explained in my post, use the "add juice" tool. I'd suggest you read up on the difference between Toolbar PageRank and internal PageRank to understand how Google calculates PageRanks internally and how Google exports them to the toolbar. Hey Tsim,

The “raw PageRanks” you see represents an internal PageRank calculation that isn’t a predictor of what you actually see in the toolbar. Actual PageRanks depend on PageRank entry points (which pages are your backlinks pointing at?) and the amount of PageRank flowing into your site from those entry points. There are other factors that effect the accuracy of the tool (e.g. PageRank discounted from certain links, some pages on your site that’s excluded from PageRank calculation, etc). To simulate backlinks, like I explained in my post, use the “add juice” tool.

I’d suggest you read up on the difference between Toolbar PageRank and internal PageRank to understand how Google calculates PageRanks internally and how Google exports them to the toolbar.

]]> By: tsim http://seo4fun.com/blog/2007/08/08/how-to-exploit-the-pagerankbot-tool.html#comment-15975 tsim Tue, 04 Sep 2007 13:16:18 +0000 http://seo4fun.com/blog/2007/08/08/how-to-exploit-the-pagerankbot-tool.html#comment-15975 Hello There, I have a question concerning the PR that is given in the green bar. How is this calculated? I've tested the tool and there is a great difference between the published PR in the google toolbar and the pagerank given by the tool. This shouldn't be a problem however there is a relative difference. Pages with the highest PR (from the google toolbar) should also have the highest pagerank given by the tool, however this is not the case. Can anybody give me further info on this? Thanks! Hello There,

I have a question concerning the PR that is given in the green bar. How is this calculated? I’ve tested the tool and there is a great difference between the published PR in the google toolbar and the pagerank given by the tool. This shouldn’t be a problem however there is a relative difference. Pages with the highest PR (from the google toolbar) should also have the highest pagerank given by the tool, however this is not the case.

Can anybody give me further info on this? Thanks!

]]> By: Alex http://seo4fun.com/blog/2007/08/08/how-to-exploit-the-pagerankbot-tool.html#comment-15958 Alex Thu, 30 Aug 2007 21:43:11 +0000 http://seo4fun.com/blog/2007/08/08/how-to-exploit-the-pagerankbot-tool.html#comment-15958 Hey there, I changed it to all lowercase, and it works like a charm ! Thanks for taking the time to find a quick fix ! Hey there,

I changed it to all lowercase, and it works like a charm ! Thanks for taking the time to find a quick fix !

]]> By: Halfdeck http://seo4fun.com/blog/2007/08/08/how-to-exploit-the-pagerankbot-tool.html#comment-15953 Halfdeck Thu, 30 Aug 2007 09:07:37 +0000 http://seo4fun.com/blog/2007/08/08/how-to-exploit-the-pagerankbot-tool.html#comment-15953 Hey Paul, thanks for the feedback. If the program hangs at, say, 590, restart it and run a partial crawl instead of a full crawl. Then look at the Status Code column (might have to activate it, just look under filters). Select the urls with a 405 status code and recrawl them. You can also run the program through DOS (see the install page for instructions - it's a cake walk) and then email me the errors you see. Or just email me the URL you're having trouble with and I get back to you. Hey Paul, thanks for the feedback.

If the program hangs at, say, 590, restart it and run a partial crawl instead of a full crawl. Then look at the Status Code column (might have to activate it, just look under filters). Select the urls with a 405 status code and recrawl them.

You can also run the program through DOS (see the install page for instructions - it’s a cake walk) and then email me the errors you see. Or just email me the URL you’re having trouble with and I get back to you.

]]> By: Paul Ferree http://seo4fun.com/blog/2007/08/08/how-to-exploit-the-pagerankbot-tool.html#comment-15950 Paul Ferree Wed, 29 Aug 2007 19:21:36 +0000 http://seo4fun.com/blog/2007/08/08/how-to-exploit-the-pagerankbot-tool.html#comment-15950 I hope it's ok to ask this here, if not let me know, but I've just downloaded the program and I've run it on a few small sites fine, but when I run it on a site with 590 URLs it seems to hang up every time at 582. Any possible explanation or fix? Thanks, it's an awesome tool, looking forward to using it! Paul I hope it’s ok to ask this here, if not let me know, but I’ve just downloaded the program and I’ve run it on a few small sites fine, but when I run it on a site with 590 URLs it seems to hang up every time at 582. Any possible explanation or fix?

Thanks, it’s an awesome tool, looking forward to using it!
Paul

]]> By: Alex http://seo4fun.com/blog/2007/08/08/how-to-exploit-the-pagerankbot-tool.html#comment-15943 Alex Mon, 27 Aug 2007 13:27:38 +0000 http://seo4fun.com/blog/2007/08/08/how-to-exploit-the-pagerankbot-tool.html#comment-15943 Hey Half, just a quick update. I've tried the tool on a few different machines, different ISPs, and still the same. I also tried altering the site (added 1 new post), and the crawler increased from 21 pages to 22...but the new page wasn't even included. Hope that helps ! Hey Half, just a quick update. I’ve tried the tool on a few different machines, different ISPs, and still the same. I also tried altering the site (added 1 new post), and the crawler increased from 21 pages to 22…but the new page wasn’t even included. Hope that helps !

]]> By: Halfdeck http://seo4fun.com/blog/2007/08/08/how-to-exploit-the-pagerankbot-tool.html#comment-15942 Halfdeck Mon, 27 Aug 2007 00:33:51 +0000 http://seo4fun.com/blog/2007/08/08/how-to-exploit-the-pagerankbot-tool.html#comment-15942 Alex, the reason is the tool handles "StyleTips101.com" and "styletips101.com" as two unique URLs. Google Toolbar also happens to have the same problem: in IE, example.com may return a green bar while example.COM returns 0 TBPR. Capitalization variations in a domain name isn't a bad thing, but since capitalization in a path will cause canonical problems, the solution to this is involves de-capitalizing only the domain portion of a url - which is more costly than just de-capitalizing the entire URL. I might get around to fixing this, but in the mean time, if you use all lowercase URLs, the tool should work. Alex, the reason is the tool handles “StyleTips101.com” and “styletips101.com” as two unique URLs. Google Toolbar also happens to have the same problem: in IE, example.com may return a green bar while example.COM returns 0 TBPR. Capitalization variations in a domain name isn’t a bad thing, but since capitalization in a path will cause canonical problems, the solution to this is involves de-capitalizing only the domain portion of a url - which is more costly than just de-capitalizing the entire URL.

I might get around to fixing this, but in the mean time, if you use all lowercase URLs, the tool should work.

]]> By: Alex http://seo4fun.com/blog/2007/08/08/how-to-exploit-the-pagerankbot-tool.html#comment-15941 Alex Sun, 26 Aug 2007 19:17:24 +0000 http://seo4fun.com/blog/2007/08/08/how-to-exploit-the-pagerankbot-tool.html#comment-15941 Wow, this is a great tool. I have a very weird problem with it tho. When it tries to crawl my site, it only produces 22 URLs out of a few hundred. I don't understand why. I looked over my robots.txt file and that doesn't look like that's the problem. I've tried it on some other sites that I own, and it works fine, crawls the whole site. Any suggestions ? Ps. The site in question is the site that my name links to. Wow, this is a great tool.

I have a very weird problem with it tho. When it tries to crawl my site, it only produces 22 URLs out of a few hundred. I don’t understand why. I looked over my robots.txt file and that doesn’t look like that’s the problem. I’ve tried it on some other sites that I own, and it works fine, crawls the whole site.

Any suggestions ?

Ps. The site in question is the site that my name links to.

]]> By: Halfdeck http://seo4fun.com/blog/2007/08/08/how-to-exploit-the-pagerankbot-tool.html#comment-15888 Halfdeck Fri, 10 Aug 2007 19:08:49 +0000 http://seo4fun.com/blog/2007/08/08/how-to-exploit-the-pagerankbot-tool.html#comment-15888 Thanks Richard. If you don't see bars for Outbound PageRank, download the latest version. Hey Christoph, thanks, I actually haven't had the time to read the follow-up on your blog post; I'll save that for this weekend. Thanks Richard. If you don’t see bars for Outbound PageRank, download the latest version.

Hey Christoph, thanks, I actually haven’t had the time to read the follow-up on your blog post; I’ll save that for this weekend.

]]> By: Christoph C. Cemper http://seo4fun.com/blog/2007/08/08/how-to-exploit-the-pagerankbot-tool.html#comment-15873 Christoph C. Cemper Thu, 09 Aug 2007 09:23:30 +0000 http://seo4fun.com/blog/2007/08/08/how-to-exploit-the-pagerankbot-tool.html#comment-15873 Hey Halfdeck - this tutorial was way overdue... I which I had this last week when playing with your Pagerank Similator - aehm ... supplemental fixer... :-) So, now that the great doc is ready, it would be great to have that "pagerank request script url" parameter we talked about... if you need a test script, LMK please best,christoph Hey Halfdeck - this tutorial was way overdue… I which I had this last week when playing with your Pagerank Similator - aehm … supplemental fixer… :-)

So, now that the great doc is ready, it would be great to have that “pagerank request script url” parameter we talked about… if you need a test script, LMK please

best,christoph

]]> By: Richard Hearne http://seo4fun.com/blog/2007/08/08/how-to-exploit-the-pagerankbot-tool.html#comment-15872 Richard Hearne Thu, 09 Aug 2007 08:14:09 +0000 http://seo4fun.com/blog/2007/08/08/how-to-exploit-the-pagerankbot-tool.html#comment-15872 Great Post - I'll need to take a few hours out with a test site to figure out all the functions above. I never realised I could simulate flow like this - great tool. Best rgds Richard Great Post - I’ll need to take a few hours out with a test site to figure out all the functions above. I never realised I could simulate flow like this - great tool.

Best rgds
Richard

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